PTC PTR Scams
THE $1,000,000 PER DAY PTC PTR SCAM
Internet Users Handbook, Chapter 7 (Revised 9/16)
This Chapter concludes nine months of research, participation, and investing in the PTC PTR category of Internet Scams. Several years ago, I looked at various PTC PTR programs to pass some time and unwind from other activities. But I figured my time was worth much more than an estimated $1.00 per day. Such low paying sites are still available today and do pay. However, to make any real money with these sites, you need a very large downline contributing to your income. How much you can earn from your downline varies with your membership level.
It is hard for me to get excited about someone that posts a check for $ 5.00 (as proof of payment) and that he or she is happy. How much work did they have to put into to get that $ 5.00; did it pay for his internet connection, his electricity, computer, etc. This chapter takes another look at today’s’ big money PTC, PTR sites and the scams they represent. I realize that $5.00 can mean a lot to some members depending on their country of origin.
I cannot emphasise the importance of this chapter, as too many new users (newbies) join the Internet looking for quick solutions to the financial problems. The are being taken-in by the promise of big earnings $1 -20,000 per email that will never be received or taken to the taken to the bank. Earnings are Not Cash!
7.1 Retired and Bored
My Real Estate and Business Financing companies encountered nearly every financial scammer walking into my office. Clients had me review their financial offers; many of which were scams that often pop up during periods of higher-interest rates.
2004 Retiring from 12-16 hour days as Chairman, President CEO of my companies; boredom set in quickly. I need some activity to pass my time. Chatting is great among the various social networks available, but can lead to problems for you, unless you keep it strictly business, not monkey business.
I had been using the internet for messaging, email, research, financial data, quotes, etc. in my various businesses. So why not research the internet for scams and perhaps some productive, paying programs.
Much to my surprise nearly every offline scam that I had experienced was available online. Plus the scope of scams was much deeper than my offline financial scam experience.
Fascinated by all this, I investigated, participated and gained first-hand experience many in a variety of online scams to learn their tactics. Others seem so obviously to be scams, the too good to be true scam. However, these scams survive to this day because the scams catch a much broader uneducated audience online.
In this pursuit, I took a second look at the PTC PTR community and found new PTC PTR programs that paid, unbelievable, think of it: $20,000 to read one email? Ridiculous, Isn’t it?
Wow, this cannot be true? What advertiser was willing to pay out $20,000 to have someone read or click their ad? It makes no sense; it is not possible. I told the wife, this must be a new Money Laundering Scheme. It did not make any sense to us, nor should it to you. However, do read on!
Real or not, I decided to investigate further, joining one site led to joining another and another, etc. Before I knew it, I had several sites promising ridiculous amounts of money per day. It became a game for me to see how much I could earn per day, perhaps an addiction; it certainly had entertainment value watching the earnings climb daily.
7.2 Example – PCash.Info.
This site is used to introduce PTC PTR to you and help explain some of their similarities and differences
Home Page pcash.info
|Home | Join | Advertise | Affiliate Login | Advertiser Login | Upgrade | Help | Terms | Privacy | Contact|
- Members: 7,608
- Payouts: 62,093,832,222.00 (You have to be clueless to believe this figure)
- Mails in queue 2,296
- Ads in rotation 30
Most emails and ads were another PTC PTR site to join – so I did and started building my matrix of programs. Soon I was reading or clicking the same ads over and over, once a day, and still increasing my daily earnings
- Get paid by clicking!
- All Emails Worth $20,000 (Would you pay someone $20,000 to read your ad?)
- All PTC worth $10,000
- $20,000 signup bonus
- $2,000 referral bonus
- Redemption starts only $500,000
- We send redemption with 48 hours
- No downline required for payout
- Payments Will be Made via Liberty Reserve, Moneybookers, E-Gold!
- Fast Payments for Honest Members (Make me laugh every time I see this)
- 2 Ref levels of commission under you; Level 1 – 20%, Level 2 – 10%
PCash.info is not a multi-level marketing site! This is a Pay per Action Site, and the membership is completely free to join. You are not required to recruit or sell anything to get paid.
Advertiser Benefits the most cost effective advertising. Guaranteed Clickthru Ad Options, eMail Advertising or Banner Advertising.
Advertise to 100% opt-in membership.
Members are eager to receive your ads. Absolutely No Spam! We will customize your Ad Campaign. Reliable, Friendly Service. Fast respond! Mostly in 24 hours will be processed. Advertising Will Be Made within 24 hours. Choose Your Page
Membership has nearly tripled since I joined this site. Note the claimed payouts of over 62 Trillion, and all this with only 2300 emails and 30 banner ads. Payouts of 62,093,832,222.00 divided by 7,608 members’ give an average payout to each member of $816,000.
Not bad it if were true. But it is not, the number payout increases with each request for payment, but no money changes hands, only the tot board changes.
Of course, this is not real, but seeing the numbers get so high, it became a game, a diversion, and sort-of addictive (how much can I earn?). As you will see, this site and others became a part of my “How I Earned $1,000,000 per day with PTC PTR Programs”
On paper, I was making money with this site, lots of it at a time when I was getting nothing from my other sites or advertising efforts. I accumulated a downline of 58 members. Clearly, this was a winner, by all measures, except, of course, “No Payments” were received.
Even with my mentality that if you owe me a million, then 1% or $10,000 would be great, since although I would have like to have received something, but didn’t need the money.
However, I have learned that scammers don’t give up a dime. There is none of this take a little bit now, and I will send the balance later stuff.
You have no contact with your downline, only the name and a $2,000 bonus tally. For that matter, the downline could be a random generation of name to fill a list to keep you in the game. Since most of these scammers, as I have learned, own several sites, the same downline name probably shows more than one site.
The home page says payment will be made via different payment gateways. However, PayPal is now missing from the home page. A new name “Liberty Reserve” is shown. Liberty Reserve came on strong and became the primary gateway for several other sites and No PayPal. Liberty Reserve is of interest because if you read the Forex Section of this Handbook, you will find the name Liberty Reserve on the list as a Forex Scammer (whether or not they are 1 and the same, I have no idea). This one is a payment gateway, and that one is a Forex site – since they both deal with money – in all likelihood they are related.
From the homepage, you can click various links to find logins, upgrade, terms, contact for support and others. Let us look at some of this information.
When you upgrade your free membership to a Gold Membership, you will receive the following benefits:
- Free Referrals (5 x) – Your referral URL will be randomly inserted for surfers visiting the web site without a referral URL
- 10,000 PTC Ads Worth $10,000 weekly
- 10,000 banner impressions weekly
- $20,000 Solo paid email to all weekly
- Minimum Payout for Diamond Member is – 500,000$
- Diamond member fee $1000 for a lifetime Membership. Only $89.99 NOW!
When you upgrade your free membership to a Gold Membership, you will receive the following benefits:
- Free Referrals (3 x) – Your referral URL will be randomly inserted for surfers visiting the web site without a referral URL
- 10,000 PTC Ads Worth $10,000 monthly
- 10,000 banner impressions monthly
- $20,000 solo paid email to all monthly
- Minimum Payout for Platinum Member is – $2,000,000
- Platinum Member fees $500 for a lifetime Membership. Only $59.99 NOW!
Are you interested in advertising with our company?
Below are the different types of advertising services we provide.
We offer many options and are confident; you will find one to fit your needs.
How it works:
Click one of our advertising from below.
- If these advertise allow targeting – select your target groups.
- When you are done, you will have the price that you need to pay, calculated.
- After you have paid for your ad package, please fill out the “Order “on the last step to complete the advertisement ordering process.
- Complete all the information requested on the form then click submit.
- Once your payment has been confirmed, we will process your order immediately.
A Paid-eMail to Members of our Program
All of the people who are receiving the e-mail have all requested it, thus giving you, the advertiser, and a great selection of interested viewers.
- 20,000 USD solo paid email to all 60 sec (pcash) – $2.00
- 30 x $20,000 solo paid email to all 60 sec (pcash) – $55.00
- 10 x $20,000 solo paid email to all 60 sec (pcash) – $20.00
Paid to Click
Banner 468 x 60 Exposures have a unique price per click and will last until the purchased number of clicks has been reached. These are UNIQUE VISITORS as each user may click only ONCE per ad these ads are visible in the members’ paid2click area.
- 1,000 PTC Worth $10000 40 sec (pcash) – $0.50
- 10,000 PTC Worth $10000 40 sec (pcash) – $2.00
- 100,000 PTC Worth $10000 40 sec (pcash) – $5.00
Banner Impressions Advertising
Your banner inserted into our banner rotation on the top of each page of the website. This is a great way to catch people’s interest, just as much publicity, if not more than, advertising in the member e-Mails. The banners will be displayed on every page of the site, randomly mixed in with other banners…
- 50,000 Banner Impressions (pcash) – $2.00
- 100,000 banner impressions (pcash) – $4.00
- 500,000 banner impressions (pcash) – $18.00
- One month unlimited banner impressions (pcash) – $35.00* This ad allows targeting. Price determined after choosing targets.
Cost of Advertising
You can buy $ 20, 000 USD solo paid emails to all members, running 60 sec (pcash) – $2.00. If my math is correct $2.00 / 20,000 = .0001 cent. So how can anyone stay in business if each member receives $ 20,000 from reading a $.0001 ad?? The fascination continued
During my time with this project, I noted that most of the ads and emails were self-promoting or cross promoting between similar sites, probably from the same owner.
So where is the revenue?
pcash.info may, at any time, choose to edit, add and delete portions of this agreement and impose changes without prior notification of its affiliates
Limitation of Liability:
pcash.info will not be liable for lost profits, lost business opportunities, or any other indirect, special, punitive, incidental or consequential damages arising out of or related to this Agreement or pcash.info program, even if pcash.info has been advised of the possibility of such damages. Furthermore, pcash.info aggregate liability arising under this Agreement will not exceed the amount of the total fees paid or payable to you under this Agreement. The provisions of this Section survive termination or expiration of the Agreement.
Affiliates may earn by receiving paid-emails and visiting the advertiser websites after they have entered their member ID in the area on the website provided by pcash.info. Affiliates may earn by referring new affiliates to the pcash.info program. Affiliates will earn a percentage of advertising revenues collected by pcash.info.
Affiliates will be paid via PayPal / eGold. pcash.info will pay affiliates when their balance reaches the minimum payout rate set by pcash.info. Once the member has reached payout, they may request payment. Payments will be made within 30 days or a reasonable time after.
7.6 Payments/Cash Redemption
Cash redemption for PCash.info starts at $ 500,000 and is easy to reach (as most sites will claim). The amount of minimum earnings required before you can make a claim will decrease with an upgrade. PCash.info claims they will send the redemption within 48 hours. For most sites, this payout period can be shortened with the level of an upgrade. So if you want your money faster, you are motivated to upgrade. Also, an upgrade will provide you with some “x” number of free members to help build your downline.
Clearly, PCash.info and other sites are offering a “Cash Payment Redemption” link which will pay you with “x” dollars within “x” hours or days, but forget what the Home Page says. Read the fine print from the “Terms” which reveals something different.
Under the terms, Payments will be made within 30 days or a reasonable time after. Don’t confuse the “Earnings” with Cash Payments. Pcash.info, unlike some other sites, does tell you that you will earn a percentage of revenue, not full cash value.
But, as you will see when you do your Due Diligence; nobody will get anything if their daily revenue is only $4.00
Most of these sites seem to confuse the word “redemption” with a cash payout. Using some of your cash value to place an ad will usually be redeemed within 24-48 hours.
Once an upgrade and a payment request has been made, let’s say for a 48 hour redemption, many sites then report that your payment will be made within the redemption period once your account is 30, 60 or 90 days old. And not the immediate 48-hours for which you upgraded.
If you read the Home page, Terms, Upgrade and the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQS), you will typically find many inconsistencies between them. For example, the front page does not mention PayPal anymore, but when you complete the user profile; the only payment methods are PayPal and E-Gold.
Most of these PTR/PTC sites use only PayPal and E-Gold, but it appears that many are now switching to Liberty Reserve. If you contact them online, you will not get a reply, and if you contact them by email, you still will not get a reply.
I particularly love the “Fast Payments for Honest Members” What a lie!
With the amount of money I earned on the site, I should have been getting $500,000 every two days. See my earnings of over $ 180,500,000; Amazing isn’t it.
- You have directly earned: $ 92,600,000.0000
- You have earned from your Downline: $ 84,786,000.0000
- Your account balance after all transactions: $ 3,022,000.0000
When the minimum amount of a payout has been earned; in this case $500,000, you can click the “Request Payment” link, complete the request and you are greeted by the following message
Your message has been sent. We will contact you soon.
No messages regarding the payment request were ever received, and its seems that as soon as you request a payment, the “Payouts” Increase, even though no money has changed hands. So is any of this realistic – Of course not, but watching your earnings increase and increase by $20,000 can be addictive, especially, if you have not seen earnings on other programs.
7.7 Due Diligence – PCash.Info
Of course, some of these pages are Pcash.info, but others are keying on Scam, Fraud, or Ripoff/Rip-off, but our point is made. Check the headlines for your search.
Website Outlook (One of several website valuation sites to be found on the Internet)
Pcash.info Estimated Worth $2,898 USD
Description Get paid to read emails!
Daily Pageview 1,324
Daily Ads Revenue $3.97
|Dmoz Categories||Currently Not Listed in Dmoz|
|Time Range||Traffic Rank||Reach Rank||Reach Per Million||Page Views Per Million||Page Views Per User|
Pcash.Info Rank by Country
|VENEZUELA, BOLIVARIAN REPUBLIC OF||17.6%||11943|
What was interesting to me is that none of these countries are European or North American in the top 70%
With this information, it is easy to see; that pcash.info could not have paid out $62 trillion with a site value of less than $3,000 and advertising revenue estimated at less than $4.00 per day.
When the obvious is to some not so obvious, then when armed with the facts, this is a no-brainer – Scam, Pass
This is just one example of over 200 sites evaluated ranging from a $1.00 to $20,000 per program
As the numbers grew, it became a challenge: Can I earn a Million Dollars a Day Doing This? I made it a supplemental business endeavour (a non-paying business as you will learn) from 27 October 2008 till 22 Jul 2009.
7.8 How I Earned $1,000,000 per day with PTC PTR Programs
To do this, I created a worksheet to track the following details for my over 200 programs. You may note that I tracked nearly everything from the following columns titles. Some columns have berm deleted to fit this handbook.
Note, that I kept track of the date that I joined how, many days since joining, average earnings per day, signup bonuses, PTR earnings, PTC earnings, the cost of upgrading, payment to who PayPal, Liberty Reserve, etc. I also tracked the date I upgraded, when payouts were due and other factors which I tracked off the table. So it was a business, and I treated it as such.
My $1,000, 000 per day target was achieved in about six months. It could have been faster, but all programs must be accessed (whether high dollar or lesser dollars) at least once a month, or a week as I did. Like reading email sites, some have a high volume some much lower.
This sites promise high earnings, the keyword for most of them, but they also claim payouts, when in fact, no cash changes hands. Earnings are different from Payment. Why, because ad revenue could not possibly meet the payouts claimed.
Most of the ads are self-promoting or promoting within their groups of sites, so PTC PTR advertising another PTC PTR – where is the real money from outside advertisers?
It seems you cannot believe anything you read online. The information is usually inconsistent between the pages: home, FAQ, upgrades, etc. Term are subject to change, often without notice.
Upgrades range from about $10 – $500 depending on the site.
If you upgrade and expect payouts within a certain period as specified in the upgrade page; often the site redemption page will be revised to say your payout will be made to you after your account is 30-90 days old. The “Cashout” tab is never enabled once your time limit is achieved. Online contact and emails are never replied to unless they just want your money.
I did get a reply from one company that when I advised them that I wanted to upgrade, but that I have found their name on a Scam List; they came back and said they were not a scam and that they pay according to the terms of their site. Often your site; will never be upgraded even though you have already paid for an upgrade; once again, contact and emails are not answered.
Site offering computers, cameras, etc. are scams and never send the merchandise.
Sites offer 100% refund or guarantees if the site is not upgraded within a certain period are Scams. Most sites can be upgraded in minutes once the payment is accepted if you think about it.
Some sites, when a payment request is made; will respond back to you that they have changed their system, and that if you fund an additional fee called a trade fee of .1 to 1 percent they will send your money immediately. That is another Scam.
If you pay for an upgrade, keep your receipts and other details, to claim or file a dispute with the payment gateway: PayPal, Alert Pay, etc. Other gateways will not honour your claim. I believe this is why many sites can no longer do business with PayPal because of the complaints.
Sites that monitors these types of sites will advise you that any site that offers you more than $1.00 to read and email is a scam. I would change that and say forget any site that offers you more than $0.50 cents. These same reporting sites also advise that if the sites don’t offer you a Forum to communicate with them is probably a Scam.
I would change to that because even if they have a Forum, they may not allow you to entry a reply or complaint as discussed elsewhere herein. Another group of Scam sites that I had offered Live Messenger, but you couldn’t access it. I guess the owner wanted his sites to look more legitimate.
These same sites also changed the contract them categories to include a category for non-payment; however, no replies have ever been received by me for such requests
Obviously businesses cannot pay out more than they take in advertising revenue and still be considered a going concern or a business
Advertising businesses cannot afford to give away computers, cameras and other such items, signup bonuses and such if the advertising revenue is not there.
Paying PTC, PTR are long term
Scammers post their ads anywhere there are members to click on them
Do Your Due Diligence
If I had done my Due Diligence; I would not have seen a reason to alert others through the Internet Scams Anonymous (ISA) Groups with approximately 90,000 members (Closed) or write the Internet Users Handbook released in 2009
I consider paying PTR, PTC sites entertainment including games, prizes, etc. They are a slow income building stream.
As with any PTR PTC the ads may be scams. Do Your Due Diligence!
Thanks for reading PTR PTC Scams
This Site is Blocked By Some Browsers, WOT And Parental Controls Triggered By TERMS and TOPICS of Internet Crime; Child Porn, Pornography Addiction, Sexting, Sextortion, Sexual Harassment. Children as young as 9 years old are Watching Porn and Sexting.
Use the POWER of Social Media SHARING to HELP INCREASE AWARENESS of these important topics for Parents, Friends and our Children